A Chat with Brandon Sanderson (And… um… more)

For those of you who haven’t seen it yet, I had a fun little conversation with Brandon Sanderson a couple of weeks ago.

And when I say ‘little conversation’ of course I mean ‘absolutely huge conversation.’ What was supposed to be a small interview between the two of us ended up being more than 6500 words long.

But really, what do you expect when you get two epic fantasy writers together to talk about writing?

Here’s the link. Share and enjoy….


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Edit: Someone in the comments below pointed out to me that I already linked to that interview earlier this month.

At first I didn’t believe them. Then I clicked back on the blog a few times… and there it was.

Honestly, I don’t have any memory of writing that blog at all. After seven days on the road, I was pretty much an exhausted mess.

Still, as I meant to post up a new interview today. Let me offer you a few different links instead.

Here’s a shorter interview that I haven’t mentioned on the blog yet.

And, just because, here’s an article from the Philidelphia Inquirer. (Don’t miss the fact that there are two pages.)

There you go. New stuff. That’s what I meant to post.

This entry was posted in Interviews, the craft of writingBy Pat67 Responses


  1. midnitesmask
    Posted March 27, 2011 at 11:56 PM | Permalink

    “First” type post deleted.

    • Posted March 28, 2011 at 7:11 AM | Permalink

      Sorry to use the hand of god there. But I need to nip that “first” shit in the bud.

      We can’t allow ourselves to go down the road into that particular brand of madness.

      • midnitesmask
        Posted March 28, 2011 at 4:50 PM | Permalink

        Sorry Dude, didn’t mean to offend, I was just surprised that I was up when you posted it and was excited, wasn’t trying to cause any madness. But I did want to say that I truly did enjoy The Wise Man’s Fear, and now so is my Father in law. Keep up the good work and stuff, and any chance of you coming to Kansas on a tour?

        • Posted March 29, 2011 at 12:32 AM | Permalink

          No worries. I’m just working hard to keep the signal to noise ratio good here on the blog. “First” posts tend to degrade signal quality fairly quickly…

  2. katelyn
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:00 AM | Permalink

    Love seeing the frequent blog posts pop up! Careful, we’ll get greedy you know.

  3. saintburns
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:04 AM | Permalink

    You should start telling stories about what happened on your tour! I want to see if you tell stories about the Chicago reading! I want to see if I’m in them! I’m ok with me being selfish!

  4. SonyRed
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:05 AM | Permalink

    I got all excited when i saw that there was a new Blog post…then i read it and realized you already told us about this conversation about 4 posts ago, in “First editions, a conversation, and another interview…”

    Very tricksy, Pat!

    But it was a nice read!

    • Posted March 28, 2011 at 7:15 AM | Permalink

      Shit. Did I?

      *Goes to look.*

      Damn. I was such an exhausted mess back then after 7 days of tour that I don’t even remember posting that blog.

      I’ll post up another interview instead. Thanks for the heads-up.

      • Posted March 28, 2011 at 7:28 AM | Permalink


        • SonyRed
          Posted March 29, 2011 at 6:18 PM | Permalink

          Hah, no worries. Thanks for the new links!

      • blanx
        Posted March 28, 2011 at 8:32 AM | Permalink

        No worries- given your schedule of late, I for one wouldn’t be surprised if you were reverting to “Memento” style tattoos to get through the days.

        Also, I had to register just to say that Name of the Wind and Wise Man’s Fear are two of the best books I’ve read in a very, very long time. Congratulations on creating such a vibrant and organic world.

  5. SwarleyBen
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:10 AM | Permalink

    Great Interview! I read it when it came out a couple of weeks ago, very fun indeed, i mean, it’s 6500 words! Yet still I cruised through it…do it again hehehe. Big fan from Chile here, any chance you could come here? Just 6500 miles or something…10 hour plane…just kidding, letting you know you got fans from all over the world Pat, even here very down south…awesome! Book 2 is on the way, getting it in just a few days shipped from Europe, been waiting a week for it! So you can imagine I’ll lock myself in my room and not leave until I finish it, to get over here again and give you a big fat AWESOME, thank you for your amazing writing talente, NotW is Top 5 in my list, and WMF will be too, I bet.
    Greetings from Chile, Pat
    PD: Oot is awesome too…

  6. Synergy012
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:20 AM | Permalink

    Pat. I am not sure where your publisher got the number 420,000 as the longest paperback. Atlas Shrugged is approximately 650,000 and that doesn’t include 50 pages of forwards and introductions.

    I mention this only because it seems that book 3 will need to be considerably longer than book 2 to wrap up the story stories. Unless there will be a book 4 (Day 3 Volume 2 or Chronicler sticks around an extra day) …?

  7. mintfresh
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:41 AM | Permalink

    Hey Pat, long time listener, first time caller. This was a good interview, and I happened to read it just after finishing Wise Man’s Fear, which was convenient, since it had put me in the mood for more good fantasy. I’d not read any of Sanderson’s stuff before, so I went out and picked up the Mistborn trilogy. I really enjoyed it, so I can thank you for indirectly leading me to it!

    WMF was excellent, it pretty much topped NotW in every regard; not something I’d thought possible. I also enjoyed it being nice and long. I’m a strong supporter of quality over quantity, but if we can have both? Yes please! I’m an inconveniently fast reader, so many books are over too quickly. Here’s hoping book 3 is even longer! And out even sooner!

    Honestly, with all you seem to have left to wrap up, I have no idea how you’ll fit it in one more book, but I trust you know what you’re doing.

    • LisaD
      Posted March 28, 2011 at 8:46 AM | Permalink

      Just finished WMF and thought the same exact thing……how in the world will all of this wrap up in 1 more book? I’m hoping there will be a change of plans and Chronicler can stay longer :) or that day 3 will bring us to somewhat current events and the story continues with what is going on outside the Inn. Actually I want Kvothe to solve things and be redeemed, but that’s my fantasy weakness: wanting it all to turn out ok. The scene with the 2 soldiers was unbelievably sad to me.

  8. Flugenblarg
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:47 AM | Permalink

    Loved Wise Man’s Fear, devoured it over the course of one (seemingly) short day of reading. It’s obvious response is positive for it so I guess you can start considering yourself a “Professional Writer” :P.

  9. Posted March 28, 2011 at 1:53 AM | Permalink

    I linked to that conversation on my FB page several days ago. I really enjoyed it. I hope to see more stuff like that (i.e. authors interviewing each other).

  10. Mantra
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 2:24 AM | Permalink

    That was really interesting. A lot of the interviews I read with writers are from people that aren’t writers, but that was more of a conversation about writing, by at least one of my favourite writers. I’ll leave you guys to guess which one.

    That was a paragraph with the word “writers” in it too much.

    I’ve also noticed that once someone gets published, and particularly if they’re successful, it starts being a “job”, whereas before it was what they did when they were supposed to be doing their job. I’m not saying this is a bad thing, but it was something I noticed in the interview. It was interesting to see that recent transformation in what both Brandon and Pat were saying.

    ps – Yes, Pats the favourite ;)

  11. Widow Of Sirius
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 6:28 AM | Permalink

    I was reading this clandestinely while I was supposed to be planning lessons last week – I was caught when I started laughing.

  12. caledon
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 7:54 AM | Permalink


    I’ve just started Wise Man’s Fear. It’s good to be back with Kvothe again.

    Your interview mentions Leo Grin’s article, which I have no desire to read, but I did stumble across Joe Abercrombie’s response to it the other day, which is a contender for one of the funniest things I have ever read:


    Thought you/everyone might be interested after that excellent interview you did with him a while back.

    Cheers. :-)

  13. Lymond
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM | Permalink

    “Glacial” pacing. I read the Cavern of Black Ice last year. I learned much about living in very cold environs, but I learned almost nothing about the characters or plot. Apparently the next two books are similar. I will never know myself.

    A Wise Man’s Fear doesn’t move Kvothe too far in terms of years (I’m not sure it’s been specified just how old his innkeeper self is) but it continues to show how his legend is built which, I thought, was the point of the books. Not so much the stories of a legendary figure, but more the tale of how the stories became legendary. Or as Bast might put it: “Kvothe’s exploits were seen as legendary; it remains a mystery if Kvothe will believe himself legendary, seen.”

    Suffice it to say, I’m enjoying the ride, precisely because it is explaining how a legend is created, not always born.

    • Mickey
      Posted March 28, 2011 at 2:02 PM | Permalink

      I think Bast says something about it being hard to believe that he is only twenty five.

  14. rads2009
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 10:23 AM | Permalink

    Patrick, you’re a great guy. I really enjoy reading your blog. The Name of the wind is one of my favorite books. Thanks for all your hard work. Good job on The wise Man’s Fear! Congratulations on the NYTimes bestseller list.

    I predict Elodin will take Kvothe to Taco Bell, and after a meal full of beans, he tells Kvothe the Name of the Wind is “Smelly.”

    I encourage Pat’s fans and readers to note Kvothe’s Father’s Song that Kvothe’s mom in the past (did) Not Tally a Lot Less.

    • rads2009
      Posted March 28, 2011 at 10:25 AM | Permalink

      also, wanted to ask since I haven’t seen it discussed- Patrick, did you write yourself in as Manet?

      • Oatmeal
        Posted March 29, 2011 at 6:19 AM | Permalink

        He’s been asked this before, and although I can’t link a specific article cause I don’t remember which ones they are, the answer has always been a resounding “no” with the addition that he doesn’t do the “auto-biography masquerading as fiction” thing.

        However, it’s a great question and one that many people obviously have because he keeps getting asked LOL.

        • Angelbaka
          Posted March 29, 2011 at 12:32 PM | Permalink

          I always find it hard to believe that authors are capable of not writing themselves in and doing the ‘auto-biography masquerading as fiction’ thing. There are merely authors who do it really well and unoppressively and authors who are blatantly and painfully obvious about it (see “Mary Sue” in TVTropes.) Pat might not be painfully obvious about it, but I also think it’s rather self-explanatory that all authors draw from reference when creating characters. Who do you know better than yourself?

          That said, I think Manet definitely has a lot of Pat in him. But, it’s one of the more obvious bits. I’d bet Denna, Sim, Fela and Auri all have a bit lot of Pat in them too. Hell, I’ve got a feeling the Tinker’s have more of Pat in them than anyone else. Why not?

  15. Darak
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 10:41 AM | Permalink

    Hi Pat :-)
    Do you know something else you and Brandon Sanderson have in common?
    Me! ;-)

    Greetings from Rome,


    • Zivtele
      Posted April 3, 2011 at 9:46 AM | Permalink

      hi! sorry for the random comment, just curious how you got a profile pic? :/

  16. Jan-Erik
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 10:42 AM | Permalink

    A helpful link if you’re having problems with Oot Pat :P

  17. ashaman33
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 11:05 AM | Permalink

    Hi Pat,

    I have been following your blog since TNOTW came out and this is the first time I’m posting. Of course, I love your books! I was wondering, do you still think it will be a trilogy? I see no chance of that happening (but what the heck do I know). You have to finish telling the story of Kvothe’s rise to legend and what horrible thing happened to make him end up at the Wayfarer’s Inn. I think that will be quite difficult to do in one book, but again what do I know? Most important to me though is the story of the present. What happens after Kvothe’s back story is finished, I want to see Kvothe in action today. I want to see him getting involved in the war and helping to resolve it or something.

    Anyway, I am hoping the series not only tells us about Kvothe’s past but also delves deeply into the present crisis (which incidentally is the name of one of the greatest poems ever written (by the way one of my personal pet peeves about the series is the denigration of poetry. I know its just a book but I love poetry and very occasionally write some poetry so I try not to take it personally :-) ))

    Last thing. You are a cool cat. Come to Montana some time. Billings is great in the summer and if you love winter sports we are great nine months out of the year :-)

  18. gkidd1985
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 11:14 AM | Permalink

    Ok, am I the only one that picked up on the part about the film agent? Pat, do tell more. Is someone shopping around a screenplay?

  19. Benjudah
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:10 PM | Permalink

    It gives me a little bit of a happy nerdgasm that my two favorite new fantasy authors are friends.

  20. Dianadomino
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:14 PM | Permalink

    Everyone keeps asking how Pat can finish the story in just one more book, but face it people, he is a master at what he does. The fact that his books are three or four times the length of a normal-sized book might help.

    Kvothe was already becoming a legend while he was at the University, much of it was his own rumormongering, but a lot of it had to do with actual deeds. When he gets back to the University after his trip, stories already follow him.

    Also, there is a scene with Kvothe/Kote at the Wayfarer where a soldier calls him “Boy.” He is probably older, but how much older can one be and still be called “Boy” by a soldier?

    I have no worries. Pat knows what he’s doing!


    • ashaman33
      Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:17 PM | Permalink

      I am not worried that the series may be longer than three books. I am worried that it will be only three books. I’m hoping for many more.

      • Dianadomino
        Posted March 28, 2011 at 5:29 PM | Permalink

        I don’t think Pat will leave Kvothe’s story untold. When he’s done, he’ll be done. But he IS a writer, and a writer writes. If he gets done with the trilogy and decides there must be a fourth book, hooray. But he may decide to write a screenplay or short stories or magazine articles or science fiction. But whatever he does, I think he will write. And whatever it is, I hope I get to read it.

  21. Tager
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 12:14 PM | Permalink

    “Longer then the longest book ever? I can do that.”

    Lets see how you fare for book three..

  22. mehawk
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 1:47 PM | Permalink

    Priceless how the first question and answer in the shorter interview go by without a pause.

  23. Kaptnblaubar
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 2:28 PM | Permalink

    I’m sorry if this question appears a bit dumb to you, but I just don’t get why books should not be as long as possible?
    Both of them talk about their problems to keep their books short, but I would love to read more of their creations, no matter what.
    It seems to me as if they got the ideas and the will to expand their storys, and I don’t think the quality will be affected by this.
    So why do they have to keep their books short?

  24. Little My
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 3:49 PM | Permalink

    Having read Windup Girl not too long ago, I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that Mr. Whiffle wounded Bacigalupi’s cynical, cynical soul.

  25. Sabine
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 4:52 PM | Permalink

    Film Agent? FILM AGENT?…..?


  26. salllyb
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 7:27 PM | Permalink

    Love “scruffy scribe.” Love “languorous.” I’m fairly certain I can wait patiently for the next book because NotW and WMF are *that* good.


  27. jwolf
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 7:55 PM | Permalink

    Hey Pat, huge fan, long-time reader etc. etc. I would love to spend some quality time gushing about how much I love your work, BUT I HAVE A MISSION:

    Did you (or anyone) notice in the Philly Inquirer article they get Kvothe’s name wrong? They spell it correctly but then say that it’s pronounced “Quothe”. I’m from Philly, so it’s not like I’m enjoying calling them out like this, but, as you well know, names are very important. What’s going to happen if people start going around telling stories about Quothe the Arcane? It’ll be really annoying is what, and we can’t have that.

    So yeah, I’m not sure if there’s anything you can do, and it’s probably not even that big a deal, but… Well I guess I just feel like it would really matter to Kvothe that people pronounce his name correctly. They can get a lot of stuff wrong, but not his name.

    Over and out.

    • Oatmeal
      Posted March 29, 2011 at 6:22 AM | Permalink

      A lot of people have a hard time with the name, and it does say in NotW that it’s “like quothe” except with a V. From the comments I’ve read here on the blog the KV sound is difficult for a lot of people and they just say quothe anyway…

    • fordified
      Posted March 29, 2011 at 8:03 AM | Permalink

      I agree, but one could argue that Kvothe has that trick up his sleeve that others have difficulty with his name (meaning they don’t have ‘power’ over him).

      BUT, I do see the importance of pronouncing character names correctly in my mind as I’m reading. With that being said, this is how I pronounce some of the common names in the book.

      Kvothe: kuv-oath (kuv pronounced very quickly with emphasis on the “oath” portion)
      Denna: Dinn-uh (like dinner slang)
      Wil or Wilem: Wil – Will Wilem – While-um ?
      Simmon: Simm-uhn
      Fela: I’ve teetered back and forth on this as Fell-uh, Feel-uh, Fell-ah, Fee-lah (please help)
      Auri: Are-E
      Kilvin: Kill-vin
      Elodin: Ell-uh-din
      Hemme: Him-E (like a Dodge hemi)
      Ambrose: Am-brose (like gross)
      Deoch: Dee-ock (sometimes I say it like Dee-otch to sound like Bee-otch)
      Stanchion: Stan-chin (I’m probably WAY off)
      Mola: Moh-luh
      Reshi: Resh-E
      Bast: Bast (like fast)
      Cob: like corn on the cob

      Okay, that’s a decent start. Anyone PLEASE feel free to correct this. I hate to mispronounce them but I’m sure that I am.

      • Gregg
        Posted March 29, 2011 at 9:02 AM | Permalink

        isnt Kvothe pronounced like “quote” bit with a Kv sound instead?

        and i think maybe a slight overpronounciation of the t, but not the e at the end of the word?

        i havent been pronouncing it ‘kuv’ ‘oath’… i hope i havent been doing it wrong. that would suck.

        for Fela i use “fay – lah”

        for Ambrose i say more like a Z sound (as in rose from the dead)

        and for Elodin i definitely use the o sound… ” El – oh – din”

        i have no idea if I am right… but thats a different perspective for a few!

        • fordified
          Posted March 29, 2011 at 2:25 PM | Permalink

          Interesting, I could be wrong on Kvothe (wouldn’t be the first time). And I like your pronunciation of Ambrose better than my own. The way you pronounce Elodin sounds very harsh and doesn’t roll off the tongue as easily, but this is Fantasy writing so you could easily be right. Fela could be pronounced that way, I never thought of that one.

          • fordified
            Posted March 29, 2011 at 2:39 PM | Permalink

            Nope just double checked it is definitely Kv-oath

            Quoting Pat from 2/19/08
            That’s why I put that bit in right at the beginning of his story. “My name is Kvothe, pronounced nearly the same as ‘Quothe.’”

            Kv + Quothe = Kvothe. Simple.

            But seeing as how I couldn’t find a good pronunciation of Quothe, perhaps the ‘th’ in the word is pronounced like a ‘t’. Oy! I’ll say it like ‘kuv-oath’ until someone can prove the ‘th’ should just be a ‘t’.

      • Dianadomino
        Posted March 29, 2011 at 10:43 AM | Permalink

        My sister’s name is Denna. We pronounce it: Deh-nuh. (The Deh sound is similar to the first syllable of Debbie.) (Her father’s name was Dennis, and my mom wanted to somehow name her after him.)

      • Mickey
        Posted March 29, 2011 at 2:28 PM | Permalink

        I agree with all of fordified’s offerings but two….

        My mind hears Ell-oh-deen for Elodin, and Bast is said in exactly the way it is read. Barst ??? No way dude, this is a bad-ass Prince of the Fae we’re talking about here, not a dock worker from Tarbean.

        Of course, just because I said that, Pat is going confirm that’s exactly how it’s pronounced….

        • Mickey
          Posted March 29, 2011 at 2:36 PM | Permalink

          Meh, just realised that American pronounciation and English diction may be at odds here….when we say fast, the vowel sound is elongated so it comes out as fahst.

          Apologies to fordified. Hope you can see why I got my knickers in twist though !

          • fordified
            Posted March 29, 2011 at 2:43 PM | Permalink

            Hah no problem, I do see it. Funny that your Ell-oh-deen made me think of Paula Deen :P (silly southern American cook). Her voice hurts to listen to. I’m from Indiana, we don’t have accents. Yeah yeah, I know, I know. No one thinks THEY have an accent.

    • Matt
      Posted March 29, 2011 at 8:08 PM | Permalink

      Something just occurred to me that seems like it should’ve been obvious a long time ago. Presumably, all these names and original words are carefully pronounced in the audiobook, right? I didn’t think of it before now, because I have never in my life listened to an audiobook.

      Has Pat ever blogged or otherwise talked about the audiobook, and whether the publisher is careful to get correct pronunciations? Or is it like cover art, where the author and the artist may not communicate at all? Is the actor recording the audiobook just guessing along with the rest of us?

      • fordified
        Posted March 30, 2011 at 7:11 AM | Permalink

        Didn’t think about that… Good call! I’m sure he worked with the audio book people to make sure the pronunciations were correct. Most authors do in those cases.

        • Oatmeal
          Posted March 30, 2011 at 7:34 AM | Permalink

          I’ve listened to both of the audiobooks, so I have most of the pronunciations down, but man I’ll tell ya…

          In NotW he pronounces Devi Dee-vie and in WMF he pronounces it Davey…

          Elodin’s like that too, in NotW it’s Elodin, all fast and all soft vowels, but in WMF it’s Ell-oh-din with a long o and the emphasis on the oh…

          meh, who knows LOL

          • fordified
            Posted March 30, 2011 at 12:05 PM | Permalink

            Very interesting/disappointing… Can you tell us for certain how Kvothe is pronounced in the audiobooks if it’s more like kuv-oath or kuv-oat?

          • Oatmeal
            Posted March 31, 2011 at 1:30 AM | Permalink

            It’s more like the kv in kvetch (yiddish word) the kv is one sound, not like a kuv, but literally kv … followed by oath. :o)

  28. MLBurt
    Posted March 28, 2011 at 9:36 PM | Permalink

    It’s almost embarrassing how much genuine giddy delight shot through me when I saw the “more”.

  29. rappy7
    Posted March 29, 2011 at 8:26 AM | Permalink

    I know “first” type posts are unwelcome, but what about “last” posts? That’s a whole new brand of madness, I’m sure you’ll agree. Nuture it, love it, feed it at your teet.

  30. Posted March 29, 2011 at 9:49 AM | Permalink

    The Sanderson thing was new to me, so thanks for something new… and then two other new things…

    • Mickey
      Posted March 29, 2011 at 3:33 PM | Permalink

      Just read about your assignment, going to need more time since I am not going to use Pats work, rather on a few others I have in mind. Hope you wont be angry, I just want to take the Chair of Dissent on this one.

      I respect your scholarship, and you’ve obviously a keen intellect. I look forward to seeeing what results I come up with !

  31. Dianadomino
    Posted March 29, 2011 at 12:03 PM | Permalink

    Saw this comic today and it is somehow apropos.


    Only Mr. Rothfuss’s work is like a FEAST! One that goes on for days and weeks. ^_^

  32. Constance
    Posted March 29, 2011 at 12:32 PM | Permalink

    You sneaky sneaky man. No mention of the secondary signing in Los Angeles? I’m glad I have you Facebooked. Now I can give you a present AND pick up a signed copy of the NotW audiobook for my husband. If only the bookstore had copies of Princess :(

  33. gaard63
    Posted March 29, 2011 at 3:52 PM | Permalink

    Hi guys just a side note, there are some great discussions going on over on goodreads.com in the rothfussians group on the WMF and our theories for The Doors of Stone.

    • Posted March 30, 2011 at 1:13 AM | Permalink

      Definately. Some things have been brought to my attention that I didn’t catch from WMF. So glad I found that site.

  34. Bianca
    Posted March 29, 2011 at 8:56 PM | Permalink

    So, just wondering… whenabouts can I expect book three? I either need a conclusion, or someone to talk to about a certain incident in WMF because I am utterly confused.

    Lots of love to this series,

  35. Dulcet
    Posted March 29, 2011 at 9:10 PM | Permalink

    I was wondering if you had a title yet for book three aside from Day 3. The release date, I’m not too concerned with because WMF was so worth the wait it was. Or do you know when we will know the title of the third book?

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