The Tak FAQ

Well folks, we’re in the home stretch of the Tak kickstarter. Since my last blog on the subject we’ve launched some new stuff, like a much-requested cloth board and the opportunity to buy Devi’s board separately from the boxed set, so that more people can afford to pick it up.

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As I write this, we’ve just topped $800,000 in the kickstarter. Almost 7,500 people have jumped in to play with us, and there’s only four days left for people who want to get in on the action. So if you know of anyone who might be interested, this would be the time to ping them.

Since we started the kickstarter, I’ve been fielding questions here in the comments of the blog and on twitter. But some of them have come up enough that it feels like we’re overdue for an FAQ.

  • So… I thought Tak was just a different name for Go.

Nope. Sorry. Different game.

  • Is this game accessible to the blind?

A little, but ultimately, not really.

When this question first came up, I thought we were pretty good. The pieces have different shapes, so you can tell them apart by touch. What’s more, the Arcanist’s board has grooves, so you can even feel the squares.

But then I looked into it, and saw what a game really needs to be usable by the blind. Among other things, it requires pieces that can’t be accidentally knocked over. And that would involve us prototyping some sort of pegged pieces and a pegged board to go with it. And there just isn’t enough time.

My suggestion? Maybe start a conversation in the Tak subreddit and see if someone has and idea about adapting the pieces. Or if you have a 3D printer, you could design and print your own pieces that are more blind-compatible. There’s a plethora of options.

  • Can I make my own set?

If we weren’t cool with that, we wouldn’t be encouraging people to do it as a stretch goal. We know if you play the game you’ll like it and probably want to pick up a copy. But to play it, you’re going to have to make up a set.

Luckily, you can throw a set together from almost anything:

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And play almost anywhere:

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Some folks have gone really crazy making their own sets:

CiRg7EqXEAIsaFj(Like this one made of iron. I think of as the Anti-Faen set.)

And that doesn’t even begin to scratch the surface, if you want to see a bunch more photos, you should check out the #Takgamephoto hashtag on twitter.

  • Can I make sets and then sell them?

Well… no. You shouldn’t do that. Because that’s kind-of a dick move.

Remember the kickstarter we’re running? Where we are… y’know, selling the game that we made? Selling something that belongs to someone else isn’t really a cool thing to do. Above and beyond the legality it’s just not respectful. James hammered this lovely, elegant game out of the pure awesome in his brain. And you know how he makes a living? Wait for it…. he sells games.

So yeah. Don’t do that. Kinda rude.

  • Why does it cost actual money to ship this thing? Don’t you have a magical teleporter to Europe?

Okay I know that’s not what you guys are actually saying, but the truth is, it kinda *sounds* like what you’re saying when you complain about how much international shipping costs.

I know it’s pricey. But please keep in mind that international shipping requires a box being carefully packed, then moved thousands of miles. This requires multiple planes and trucks. Multiple people. It is complicated and hard, and hard things cost money. I mean, there’s a *reason* spice used to cost so much, and it’s not just that the Fremen had a monopoly.

That said, we are sympathetic to your plight. And we were wondering if there was a way for multiple people to order games together and save on shipping. So we asked Carol, the true Mistress of Shipping Questions over at Cheapass, and here’s what she gave us.

I’ve fielded a few direct messages from people, and explained that all they need to do is back for one person (at even just the $5 level), and then do their add-ons through the pledge manager for up to another 10 games. That lets them see the exact postage as they go, and select the precise collection of products they want for their friend-group or buying club.

So there you go. Just team up with some friends and everyone saves money.

  • I have an idea for a rule change!

We’re pretty confident in the rules at this point. We wouldn’t have launched the game if we weren’t sure that the game was good.

  • I AM FROTHY WITH RAGE THAT YOU’RE MAKING THIS GAME AND NOT THE ONE I JUST INVENTED IN MY HEAD.

1. That is not a question.

2. I am happy you have a game in your head. You should make that game.

  • How can there be an Edema Ruh board or University board if Kvothe has never played before?

There’s a game I’ve played my whole life called euchre, and I’m guessing that 90% of you haven’t ever played it. Most of you have never played Go even though there’s probably group of devoted players in your nearby college or town. Ditto with bridge, or Sheepshead. Or any of  number of very common games.

Relax. Kvothe was only 12 when he lost his troupe, and he’s been kinda busy since then. Most importantly, not everyone experiences everything a culture has to offer.

  • I still don’t really understand how to play the game…

We have a video that will help with that.

  • How high do you think the kickstarter will go?

I honestly have no idea. Before we started, I was kinda hoping we’d get past $500K, but we passed that more than a week ago. I really don’t know where things are going to end up.

At this point, I’m just trying to be happy that so many people have been enjoying the game.

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That said, I *have* been spending a lot of time over at Kicktraq. There’s a bunch of graphs and charts that juggle the kickstarter data over there, and I’m mildly addicted to it. Here’s a link if you’re the sort of person who likes graphs.

If you have any other questions, feel free to comment here on the blog, or drop them over on the kickstarter itself, where James and his crew will tackle them.

Later Space Cowboys,

pat

P.S. And a final link to the Kickstarter, for those of you would like to go check it out directly.

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54 Comments

  1. Posted May 16, 2016 at 5:18 AM | Permalink

    For the “accessible” board, you could make the pieces with magnets inside, so they stay together and in place without pegs. You could also make them all the same shape so they stack easier, but make their edges with different textures (bumpy, spiky, etc).

    • Tacroy
      Posted May 16, 2016 at 7:47 AM | Permalink

      Yeah, I was thinking something along the lines of those Tegu blocks you see in stores for fancy useless things.

    • Posted May 16, 2016 at 1:33 PM | Permalink

      It would be much easier to just use some Lego, in my opinion….

      • Posted May 16, 2016 at 1:36 PM | Permalink

        When you’re using a bunch of them, magnets have a tendency to snap around and suddenly attach to each other in ways you don’t like. That would straight-up ruin a game you’re partway through….

        • nrcole
          Posted May 17, 2016 at 2:45 PM | Permalink

          Lego sounds good as an interim solution, but I think it would get frustrating and lose a lot of the tactile pleasure of the game to be constantly prying off and apart Lego pieces.

          What about a “board” with thin wooden poles rising up from it, and pieces with holes in the center? I’m thinking of that old puzzle with the three poles where you move the rings around:
          http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31cSxsOuxKL._SL160_.jpg

        • LS
          Posted May 17, 2016 at 2:59 PM | Permalink

          LEGO pieces would stay together, but wouldn’t help with telling one player’s pieces from the other. Edge textures would be the key there. They’re also usually pretty hard to separate one-handed, which would make splitting stacks as you move cumbersome.

          Magnets might work if a) magnets were very weak so didn’t draw each other from a distance when you’re placing a piece and the board was spacious enough and/or the pieces rested in depressions / the lines were raised so they didn’t stick to neighboring pieces if bumped near, b) the magnets were positioned in the center of each piece (and the center of one side of each piece to secure standing stones) and only have enough force to connect when very nearly resting on another piece so they wouldn’t pick up all the pieces they pass on their way to where they’re heading, and c) either pieces shaped so they have distinct upright positions or actually a pair of magnets oriented oppositely up/down so they stick either way without accidentally repelling when you’re trying to stack them.

          I think the best way would be more of a system of grooves and ridges. Kind of like the lego/peg idea, but not quite so “sticky” and symmetrical oblong ridges instead of round pegs so they fit together in any orientation but only in a tidy stack (so you don’t have pieces wobbling off the edge, and designed to work either flat or with a standing stone on top. At least one side would have groves corresponding to the ridges (or perhaps we could design the ridges to hold the upright stone on the diagonal… I don’t know the rules well enough yet to know if the orientation of the standing stones matter and I’m at work so can’t listen to the video!) Depending on the friction of the material used, perhaps very small magnets could still be used in this system to add extra stability to stacks if needed. I would also make the pieces slightly larger (though not too much thicker to minimize risk of knocking over stacks) and depending how tightly the pieces fit together, perhaps have beveled edges on top or bottom or little thumb divots to make it easier to separate them/split a stack more naturally one handed as you go. In each set, one player’s pieces would have a smooth, glossy finish, and the other’s would be textured (perhaps just sanded with a rougher grit, or with a thin striping scored into it) and still of course be colored differently for easy play with others not relying on feel!

          Aaaand now that I’ve put way too much thought into this, I really want to go make a set! We’ll see if I can find the time….

          • kmann
            Posted May 20, 2016 at 6:26 PM | Permalink

            Magnets might actually be a possibility with new magnet technology that is being developed and used. http://www.polymagnet.com/
            What they do there is really cool, and even if it turns out to still not be practical, it is worth checking out.

  2. cpatriquin
    Posted May 16, 2016 at 7:53 AM | Permalink

    Thank you for answering the question regarding Kvothe’s delayed introduction to the game. That makes perfect sense.

  3. Michelle
    Posted May 16, 2016 at 8:19 AM | Permalink

    Pat Rothfuss plays euchre. Yet another check in the awesome column; and I have added “Play euchre with Par” to my bucket list.

    • Michelle
      Posted May 16, 2016 at 8:20 AM | Permalink

      Sigh. Pat, not Par. Unless you *like* being called Par.

    • Rasputin
      Posted May 19, 2016 at 2:53 AM | Permalink

      I annoyed my wife while she was trying to sleep just so I could tell her I was adding “Play euchre with Pat” to my bucket list.

      You, me, Pat and who, Wil Wheaton?

      Also where do you stand on house rules restarting sticking the dealer and going alone?

  4. QuintessentialDefenestration
    Posted May 16, 2016 at 8:38 AM | Permalink

    I’m less interested in if Tak *is* Go and more if it was *ever* Go, or if Go inspired any of its use in the books.

  5. Argent
    Posted May 16, 2016 at 8:46 AM | Permalink

    I AM FROTHY WITH RAGE THAT YOU’RE MAKING ALL THESE AWESOME ADDONS, AND I DON’T WANT TO SPEND HALF MY PAYCHECK ON TAK, BUT I ALSO KINDA WANT TO…

  6. ShaneW
    Posted May 16, 2016 at 9:09 AM | Permalink

    I’d have to say that I am pretty disappointed by this explanation for Kvothe’s lack of knowledge on Tak before Bredon. Kvothe traveled with his family from village/town/city to village/town/city and based on the interviews and the kickstarter we are led to believe that this is a popular game. Popular enough that people carry pieces on their person to play in taverns. Certainly a traveling troupe would have, at some point, come across some people somewhere playing a game of Tak on a tavern table. The fact that Tak is so prevalent that we are unlocking rules/variants/commentary on it’s play in different cities in which the story takes place or with respect to a group of people in which the protagonist is from makes it harder to believe he had no foreknowledge of the game. I can’t understand him at least not being passingly familiar with a Ruh version of Tak. I can see him not knowing Tarbean rules since he would not have spent any time in an establishment to see such play. I can understand him not seeing it at the University since he was so solitary and constantly busy with his own studies/music. I can’t understand him not seeing it at the Eolian, a place where he spent a large amount of time when it was busiest.

    I love the stories but this is inconsistent to me. Would have much preferred that this game had stayed a regional game that could have even been restricted to the upper class.

    • Iveray
      Posted May 16, 2016 at 10:15 AM | Permalink

      Tak is also kind of presented as a bar game, and young Kvothe probably wouldn’t have been in any of those. As for why it doesn’t show up in the Eolian, I’m not sure.

      • ShaneW
        Posted May 16, 2016 at 11:34 AM | Permalink

        It’s presented as a bar game in the kickstarter but not in the book. It seems like a much more sophisticated game that would be played by nobles, merchants or others in the upper echelons of society.

        Taverns are not always an adult only location in our current age and I would think even less so in historical ages. It may have depended on time of day but I would expect taverns to cater to youth more often than today, especially if they happened to be an inn/tavern establishment.

        Pat’s explanation just seems underwhelming. Oh well, it’s not my world, I just read about it.

      • Kimberlyand
        Posted May 16, 2016 at 2:11 PM | Permalink

        Who would play Tak at an establishment of fine music and talent?! That would be an insult.

    • simply_kote
      Posted May 16, 2016 at 11:49 AM | Permalink

      Way I see it, we now have a really cool game loosely based in Pat’s world. The fact that it isn’t talked about much in the books in every single bar/Edema troop/nook and cranny of the world doesn’t mean it can’t have existed. Tolkien has whole books of information that he doesn’t even mention in the “mainstream” books, yet that doesn’t make the information any less canon.

      Let Pat add to his world; if it doesn’t sit well with you, that’s unfortunately the way things go sometimes.

      • Silvaeth
        Posted May 16, 2016 at 1:39 PM | Permalink

        I don’t understand why everyone is so upset. As a child, I pretty much hated being forced to play board games because there were things outside way more interesting. Or books, I really loved my books. I really love the way Kvothe is written, because he’s just a kid on the road with too sharp a mind. So he is taught by many other people how to track, how to juggle, how to play music and his education was a fairly well rounded one. His education was quite comprehensive, and it included an education into his family’s culture, but also gave him skills he could use to help them out on the road. So maybe it didn’t include a comprehensive rule guide of Tak for him in his youth, he was a kid. To me, that just seems like it wasn’t important enough for them to drill into his head, versus how to trap a rabbit in case you’re starving. And then his parents were taken from him. Pat is just being wonderful and providing us with his understanding of the game and how it would be treated for different regions, cities or peoples.

        Also, Pat, I have played Chess, Bridge, and possibly Go. You mention games I’ve heard of, and others I’ve not. Now I really have something to check out, aside from trying to master Tak. Keep being wonderful.

    • Posted May 16, 2016 at 1:31 PM | Permalink

      So what you’re saying is that you do actually play Go, Chess, Euchre, Sheepshead, and Bridge?

      • ShaneW
        Posted May 16, 2016 at 4:54 PM | Permalink

        I definitely know Chess, Checkers, Blackjack, Poker, Cribbage and have heard of Quarters, Bridge, Backgammon and Go among many others. I’m not entirely sure why you are trying to compare my life experiences with that of your artistic creation. It is not a valid comparison. I do not have the varied life experiences of traveling a region(s) with my family and being introduced to various cultural from said region(s). Maybe it’s just me but I have never met a a number of people walking around with a deck of cards waiting to play Bridge with random people or individuals walking around with their personal checkers and chess pieces.

        The lore around this game you’ve created is such that people carry pieces on them to play scheduled or pick up games, gamble on the outcome or have longer play sessions. Kvothe’s own culture has a version of it plus he is “worldly” even at a young age. It sounds quite popular in the world you’ve created. The assertion that he does not know of it despite its popularity is harder to accept for some of us.

        Anyway, I’m not going to get into an argument with the person who created this world just pointing out what seems like an inconsistency. Maybe I am being defensive for no reason but honestly, it sounds like you are upset at people who question you when we are living with incomplete information for the world you’ve created. We are clearly interested and invested enough in this world to ask questions. I would think that is a good thing.

        • Posted May 16, 2016 at 11:11 PM | Permalink

          If you read your original post, you’ll see that you weren’t asking questions. There’s not actually a question mark in any of your posts.

          You were complaining, saying you were disappointed, and effectively telling me how I’d done things wrong. It’s a less than charming approach.

          • Posted May 16, 2016 at 11:13 PM | Permalink

            And just to clarify here. I’m not trying to pick a fight. I’m just saying if your intention was to question, you missed the mark. And it might serve you well to reconsider your approach in the future if you’re hoping for a better response.

          • ShaneW
            Posted May 17, 2016 at 8:48 AM | Permalink

            My intention was not to ask a question. Just to express disappointment. That does not mean you’ve done something wrong, it means that the answer does not live up to my expectations.

            Life is full great moments and disappointing ones, you learn to live with both. I would have been fine with a reply of that’s just the way it is instead of the one I received.

            I am also not trying to pick a fight here. It was simply an expression of disappointment that did not need to go further. Again, it’s your world, I’m just reading about it.

          • dubbaboguet
            Posted May 27, 2016 at 11:32 AM | Permalink

            “if your intention was to question, you missed the mark”

            i am rolling…

    • NinjaofDoom
      Posted May 16, 2016 at 3:41 PM | Permalink

      I have a perfect example for the plausibility of this. My wife is over 40, and doesn’t know the rules to Chess. That game is EVERYWHERE, and played by many people in many cultures. It is everywhere in this country, and yet while she knows OF it, she doesn’t know how to play.

      In my opinion, same concept.

      • LS
        Posted May 17, 2016 at 3:12 PM | Permalink

        Yeah, I may be misremembering, but I don’t think the book made it clear that Kvothe had never ever heard of Tak before meeting Braedon, just that he had never played.

        Even if that is the case, games come in and out of favor all the time, in various locations and social circles. It’s not necessarily popular with every social class in every location at the same time. It makes the rounds, if you will. Maybe it happened to have temporarily fallen out of favor in the region Kvothe’s troupe was touring for the few years he was old enough to notice, but could have been very popular at the university or among circles that frequented the Eolian then, but fell out of favor there by the time Kvothe got there a few years later? Maybe in the third book we’ll see it coming back into favor in certain circles? Who knows.

        • Posted May 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM | Permalink

          That’s true, Bredon is introduced and it says “[Kvothe’s] next several hours were spent learning how to play tak.” Then it goes on to describe Tak. There’s never any sort of indication that he hadn’t heard of the game, only that he hadn’t played it.

          Also, Kvothe doesn’t really have that many friends, so if his small circle of friends aren’t fans of tak, he’d have no reason to learn it, regardless of whether or not it’s popular at the University right now. I know lots of card and board games, but I tend to play only a few, as I only really play the ones that my other friends like. Kvothe was the last to join that friend-group also, so it’s likely that they were already pretty set in which games they liked to play as a group before he joined them. I don’t think it’s at all strange that he’d never played it.

  7. liltweety
    Posted May 16, 2016 at 9:55 AM | Permalink

    I wish more people around me played Euchre. The only person I know here in Texas that plays is my husband and a two person game just isn’t the same.

  8. KvotheLasair
    Posted May 16, 2016 at 12:01 PM | Permalink

    Is corners the same game as euchre? When I was reading the descriptions given it reminded me of it a lot. Once I started to draw more and more parallels between the two I realised that it must be the same game. I wish more people knew how to play or even knew that it existed so I could play it more.

    • Posted May 16, 2016 at 1:32 PM | Permalink

      It’s a trick taking game, but it’s not the same as euchre.

      • rundlesten
        Posted May 17, 2016 at 3:17 PM | Permalink

        I live in Ontario and Euchre is big here. It feels like I was raised on it, in fact.

        Best Euchre advice I ever got when I was learning: if the score is 9-6 in your favor and the other team is dealing. You order that shit up (if possible)

        • Rasputin
          Posted May 19, 2016 at 2:56 AM | Permalink

          The best euchre advice is that you can count on your partner for one.

          Either that or you should make it with right, nine, and an off ace or better.

          • Richd00d
            Posted May 19, 2016 at 3:54 PM | Permalink

            True story – the best euchre partner I ever had was named Sara Bowers. We rarely lost.

            Add me to that bucket list of players.

  9. SporkTastic
    Posted May 16, 2016 at 4:13 PM | Permalink

    The real question (aside from that teleporter thing) is do you play double-deck euchre? …not that I’ve been jonesing for that or anything. Also, would corners be more or less complicated? Thanks!

  10. ced
    Posted May 16, 2016 at 5:46 PM | Permalink

    Euchre is the greatest and somehow I missed it until I was 24, despite growing up in the midwest and being into trick-taking games (it took another midwesterner in temporary exile in New Jersey to teach me).

    By the way, the guy who taught me Euchre had a weird rule that I’d like to track down the origin of. To all Euchre players here — when you’re in the barn, do you milk the cow? yes/no/I-have-no-idea-what-you’re-talking-about-are-you-sure-this-is-Euchre

    • calebm
      Posted May 18, 2016 at 8:44 PM | Permalink

      I was taught that rule a few weeks ago by someone from southern Indiana. I had never heard of it before. I’m 27 and I’ve lived in western Michigan my whole life.

      Do you also feed chickens and have donkey ears?

  11. zaqhack
    Posted May 16, 2016 at 6:00 PM | Permalink

    To those who might be thinking of buying a knock-off Tak board, please don’t. Encouraging that sort of piracy is really terrible. If someone wants to sell boards and Tak stones (and I count myself in this group), then please do two things …

    1. Have the common sense and decency to wait for the Kickstarter to end. I’m not interested in taking any nickels out of Patrick or James’ pockets! The game is amazing and they deserve everything they can make on it. THANKS to you both. It seems highly implausible that the only way someone is going to put food on the family table in the coming weeks is by undercutting their Kickstarter. If that truly is the case, I would encourage them to seek more gainful employment and perhaps government assistance of some sort rather than stealing from someone else.

    2. I have already contacted Cheapass about being a future supplier. They were easy to find by applying a little Google power and totally cool about things. I plan to follow up after Tak is shipping. I have zero problems paying a royalty or other licensing fees as applicable at that time (likely in 2017). If this sort of thing does not sit well with someone, then, again, perhaps they should consider another way of making ends meet besides stealing from more creative minds than their own.

  12. averyrothenberg
    Posted May 16, 2016 at 7:01 PM | Permalink

    Dude, check it…
    There is a game I really enjoy playing called Palace (I have also heard it called Castle) that I’ve been playing for almost 20 years. A single deck of standard playing cards is used, though you can add an additional deck if playing with more people. I have two decks of cards in my car for easy and immediate accessibility, and often a deck in my purse. My husband is an avid gamer. We grew up in the same city, and though we are a couple years apart in age, we shared many friends, and attended three of the same schools. He is in a nationally touring band. He had never heard of Palace (or Castle) and had never played it until I taught him a couple years ago.

    Since this occurred in real life, it seems totally plausible that it could happen in a fantastic and fictional world.

    • Posted May 17, 2016 at 6:23 PM | Permalink

      Now I’m going to have to find someone to play Palace with. I’d never heard of it before, but it sounds interesting.

  13. A Sunny Moo
    Posted May 16, 2016 at 7:25 PM | Permalink

    How long will the pledge manager be open after the kickstarter?

    • Posted May 19, 2016 at 3:06 PM | Permalink

      They haven’t given an exact time window, but they’ve said that they’ll be capping Devi’s Box and Devi’s Board when the pledge manager has been open for a month, but that the other items in the pledge manager will be available for a little longer.

      • A Sunny Moo
        Posted May 19, 2016 at 6:05 PM | Permalink

        My thanks.

  14. thurule
    Posted May 17, 2016 at 8:52 AM | Permalink

    Will it be ready and for sale by Gencon?

  15. Dave
    Posted May 17, 2016 at 8:58 AM | Permalink

    Hey Pat,

    A simple question concerning the rules.

    Did you notice by chance that the rule concerning the secondary goal is slightly overpowered?

    Perhaps I miss something and gladly I hear out an opinion from one of the creators but after extensively trying out the game with friends that one rule is still somewhat a safe win for the starting player.
    As the starting player, you just have to put flat stone after flat stone and keep the other player from making a road through flat stones, and you always win through the secondary goal.
    Meaning whether you don’t have stones left or the board is full, you just instantly win as the active player. Not even capturing the stones through your opponent can diminish your advantage or somewhat slow down the advantage that you own one additional flatstone from beginning of the game. And if your opponent tries to block your road with a wallstone, he/she just makes the gap between the number of flatstones you own and he/she owns bigger. It just seems you don’t even need to bother using the capture mechanism as the starting player.

    I hope that explanation was understandable, as it would be way easier to explain that just on a board with stones.

    Dave

  16. Danner
    Posted May 17, 2016 at 1:03 PM | Permalink

    Don’t really think it matters but I’m ready for a reveal in Doors of Stone that says Haliax tried to hide Tak through some weird time warp because it helped Kvothe access his sleeping mind just to be sassy to the haters. All else aside I’m very excited for Tak looks like fun.

  17. Twitch
    Posted May 17, 2016 at 2:32 PM | Permalink

    Dave, that doesn’t sound like a beautiful game at all. Why would you want to win anything other than a beautiful game?

  18. MoS
    Posted May 17, 2016 at 5:20 PM | Permalink

    I really would have liked to bake Tak, but shipping is too expensive for me.
    And yes, you’ve explained it ;-)

    I would like to have the 65$ Pledge with the game and the companion book.
    Shipping for the game only is 35$ and shipping with game and companion book is 52$.
    A raise of 17$ for adding a book to the package? Really?

    The book would be the reason to bake it, but I won’t pay nearly as much for ship as for the game and book itself. And I don’t have any baking friends.

    I wish you good luck and all the best for the game, but from my side, I will just have to wait and hope I can get it in a retail store in Germany in a few years. :-)
    I think it will be worth the wait.

  19. knnn
    Posted May 18, 2016 at 10:33 AM | Permalink

    Random observation:

    If you’re going to get the $40 option and shipping to the US, you can save a buck by choosing the $15 and $25 options separately.

  20. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam
    Posted May 19, 2016 at 8:00 AM | Permalink

    For a lover of Euchre, I personally would recommend Pinochle. Necessity would probably dictate playing with someone who already knows how to play, but if a person such as this is found, you would undoubtedly enjoy it.

  21. Joppe54
    Posted May 19, 2016 at 2:13 PM | Permalink

    Hey Pat,

    I wondered if the game would still be sold after the kickstarter has ended. I know that Devi’s box is a limited edition sort of thing, but will the arcanist board and the pieces still be sold?

    Thanks in advance,

    Joppe

    • Posted May 19, 2016 at 3:08 PM | Permalink

      They mentioned on the Kickstarter page that they’ll be selling anything that they have extras of in their shop and via Worldbuilders, but the only thing that will definitely be available for purchase after the campaign is the Classic Set.

  22. brie0098
    Posted May 23, 2016 at 11:32 PM | Permalink

    I liked the game a lot and ended up making a web based version that I can play with until I get a real board. It is open for anyone to create an account and play, there is even a bot if you want to spruce up your skills (although currently the bot is waaaay to strong of a player for me). I don’t expect the site to be perfect but I have not run into any issues with the actual game. Also, the UI is not the prettiest, but hey it is just an early version of it.

    Try it out here: http://www.taktavern.com

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